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RANT- Why There IS Great New Music Out There Today!
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Who has all this money to buy all these albums? Today we have mortgages and bills. For most of it's Youtube.
YouTube itself and Bandcamp (one of the most interesting sources of new music)…there, I found Veilburner, that band is gonna kick some a.ses. Do you want something really new? Listen to that band for your own good
The first guy is a little condescending, I must say. The rest of the content is fine.
I'm not a huge music collector/listener , & I'm probably 10-20 years behind the current music scene, but Pete has recommended a lot a lot of music bands that I've never heard of such as Lucifer, Green Lung, Alunah, Wucan, & I love those bands.
I love listening to the recommendations from guests on a variety of SoT's shows because they'll talk passionately about a band or an album, & I'll give it a listen, because I want to widen my music knowledge.
I still don't get prog but I still watch the prog show & give an album or a track a listen because there might be a band or an album that I might click with.
I think the there's a sort of snobbery or elitism when it comes to new music & a certain generation rubbishes the current generation's music.
It's a bizarre automatic dismissal that because a person doesn't click with a band or track they automatically think that all music made in the 21st century is rubbish.
Best new stuff Austria has to offer: 1. Venator – Echoes From The Gutter!!!!, 2. Eisenhand – Fires Within, 3. Roadwolf – Midnight Lighning, at least give Venator a chance, doesn't get any better than this. Do it!! Do it Now!!
I’m 60 and I was that guy in 2019, I’d lost touch with new music long before and thought I have enough music. Until lockdown, I discovered SOT sat at home, and I had access to my daughters I Tunes account.
All of a sudden 2 things happened old bands I didn’t even realise were still going were releasing albums and there were lots of new bands ,to me, with big catalogues. Not to mention just new bands.
I tried a lot and discovered the 16 year old me with a thirst. For new bands and music was still in there. It’s never been easier I can listen to albums ,as many as I want on itunes then decide whether to buy or not,that’s new.
Some bands took a few listens and some work but I not even new bands but bands that were new to me,Dream Theatre took a while but now are a among my favourite bands.
So my take is this, rediscover the 16 year old you and the excitement of new music and bands that you can go and see live.I’m living proof that person is still in there just waiting to be let free.
I’m 64 and buying new music on a regular basis, in fact it’s only in the last few years I’ve got into death/doom. Epica and Opeth got me into the growls and went on from there.
I disagree but sit on the fence with this topic. I can appreciate newer music but the music from the 70s/80s has a special sound to it that todays music lacks no matter how far you look. If music from the last 30 years was as good as the 30 before then a lot of it would be our favorites. Rarely do I see modern music make peoples top lists – for good reason.
This was a very good and entertaining episode, with great comments made by everyone present, which I completely agree with. I'm 67 years old now, and I mostly listen to new music. Luckily there is a Toronto radio station, 102.1 The Edge that plays almost all newer alternative rock, and that is what I have on in my car at all times. So I am used to listening to new songs, and I can listen to the classic rock stations, but it gets old pretty fast for me. I am constantly on the lookout for new music from many sources, including some that you mentioned, and your own YouTube channels are often a great source on their own. I look for new bands and albums and songs, and from you folks I discover older records that I missed, and it is a great joy to discover those as well. I have a pile of about 20 CDs from this year sitting next to my computer, which are all great. The latest Yes album is excellent, as far as I'm concerned. The last one was good, but this new one is a REAL Yes album. I listen to it quite a bit. I'm into more folky and singer-songwriter sorts of stuff as well, and so some of that makes up a portion of my collection, artists like The National, Great Lake Swimmers, Ron Sexsmith and William Prince. If people don't want to go looking, then that's their own fault, as there is plenty out there, and there are no excuses for not looking for it unless you are just too damned lazy or just can't be bothered.
George made a point about discovering music through magazines back in the day. I look at YouTube Channels such as those participating today as my modern magazines. You guys bring, news, features, reviews and recommendations just like the magazines used to do. Thanks for sharing your love of music with us.
I love prog and rock from the 70’s, I grew up in that era and saw lots of those bands. I also love this channel for contemporary prog. I also listen to podcast on rock and jazz. I’m loving the newer acts, the musicians play all different styles because they grew up with different styles of music.
I think it also comes down to how many close friends do you have – lifetime friends? Maybe 2-5. The same with rock bands.
I am a diehard Ian Hunter fan. We joined up on Mott the Hoople and we have stayed the course, through thick and thin. There are probably about 50,000 of us, but we have been incredibly lucky. The last 6-7 Ian Hunter albums have been stunning, and most of us are jonesying for the next one. 'Defiance Part 1' came out in March 2023, and I would bet 75% of his, still alive, die hard fans can't wait for 'Defiance Part 2.' We are still where we were in 1974, but Ian is a true rarity, A great songwriter who continues to write great songs.
Bob Dylan would be another. The Rolling Stones seem to have suddenly started writing good songs for the first time in about 40 years.
I have always kept track of Ian Hunter. Roger Chapman / Family / Streetwalkers / Chappo, I lost track of for a while, but I am catching up again now. I missed some diamonds.
Jethro Tull wrote several clunkers after the great era and I have a couple of later albums, but they are still not really there – close, better than their flat phase, but not exciting. I will listen to whatever new album they have, but I won't salivate for it.
I am a serious rock fan. I will listen to a lot of new stuff, and most fans are not like that. They had rock acquaintances for a while but they were never that connected.
When I listen to Sea of Tranquility, I constantly interrupt the show to listen to songs you discuss. Very few grab me. And, yes, it is that 20 seconds thing. And, yes, at 20, I would listen to a new album I had never heard of three times before I would embrace or dismiss it.
I think this show describes things as they are – but it is also describing things as they always were, except that, then, we were deprived of new stuff, and now we are fending it off with a tennis racket like it is a carpenter bee.
I just turned 60, and I find so much good new music that its hard to keep up. I often share new music with my daughter. I tend toward garage/indie/grunge type music. For those looking, I would recommend the band Starcrawler. As for older artists making new music, I love the track "Los Angeles" by James Murphy, Lol Tolhurst and Budgie.
Good discussion guys! Great points.
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Enforcer
Greta Van Fleet
Epic
Wanted
Dirty Honey
Begorrah
Spirit Adrift
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Striker
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Abnormality
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Troglodyte
Steel Panther
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If none of these bands do anything for you, than i don't know what to tell you. Dig deep and you'll find some good shit. Not to mention all of the supergroups that are on Frontiers records.
Rock has hit the classic corporate dilemma: established products are much more reliable sellers than new product introductions; 95% of new product introductions fail. Yet, if you cannot launch new products successfully, the company will fail.
Rock as a genre has been superseded by Rap and then by radical female pop, or whatever the heirs of Madonna are called – Beyonce, Lizzo, Lady Gaga. Then there is Wings Pop – Eddie Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc. In other words, the fashion world of music has moved on.
How easy would it be to turn on a 15 year old to successors of Beethoven, Liszt, Mozart etc.? "What is the relevance to now?" they will justifiably ask. How much do you listen to Saint-Saens or Berlioz, never mind devotees of Saint–Saens or Berlioz?
Popular music is fashion and people enjoy masse listen to what they believe everyone else is listening to. When the Classic Rock generation of original listeners dies out – and we are not talking long now – the world will be as hungry for a totally new sound as were those guy in the '50s who wanted a break from Swing and Big Band, and then from crooners.
Trying to grow fruit from a dead tree is almost impossible. The best you can do is to address those very few who have their roots in the past and who have a craving for new varietals. But it will always be a niche game.
The big question is what will replace Rap and Madonna+? What is the next big idea? Because Rap has been going for 30 years. Madonna+ has been going for 40 years. There is a massive new breakthrough sound that is already out there that will sweep the world in the next 5 years. What is that?
And as for all the legacy stuff, well we'll all be dead soon and there'll be a completely new era which we would probably be absolutely horrified by if we were still alive – and, in time, that will become Classic #.
Otherwise, we'd all still be listening to plain song, madrigals, and Gregorian chants, if not the treble/bass drone of the Byzantine era.
Thanks for the Doom Charts shout out! ?
Your intro says it all. There is a wealth of terrific new music happening every month.
Listening while I cook! Hello from Tennessee ?
Nothing worse than the station saying, “here is a block of Scorpions”, and it’s the same 3 songs….blah
If you can’t find a good record store open your own! That’s my retirement thing or maybe I’ll just work at one!
Partly agree with the radio is crap bit, but only for "normal" radio, not internet radio, which can probably provide something for everybody (bet there's a doom-pop channel out there)….
Also disagree totally with the "rock is dead" trope, perhaps in the English speaking world, but not in other market. Well worthwhile taking the occasional look at album charts in other markets, Germany is always intriguing. How else would I find out that the KK's Priest album is at number 4 in the Finnish charts?
I agree it’s partially because nobody checks it on radio anymore. I credit Pete and Brendan for getting me into some awesome stuff!
that new Spirit Adrift record is great &props to SOT for introducing me to it
Very interesting and relevant episode guys! Ok, must of my favourite bands started in the sixties and seventies and in case they still are active I listen to and like their new releases. But I still searching for new music and thanks to Sea Of Tranquility I have found Flower Kings, Wobbler, Graveyard, Mostly Autumn, Karnataka, Flying Colors and more. So thanks for that! And I agree that new music outside pop are nearly not played on radio at all. You have to find it at internet, youtube or bands/singers homepage.
Labels like Frontiers and Escape records are keeping the melodic rock scene up and running.
Kamelot are a fantastic band that would have been even bigger in the 80s..
Pete iit seems you want to own every metal and progressive album new release… Not a personal goal for me. Sometimes you have to say no thanks to your record store owning buddies…. ?
For me being 19, I’m trying to buy albums majority of adults have listened to or know so well. Like today, I got back from half price books and bought Bad English’s debut, Chicago 17, and Poison “Open Up and Say Ahhhh.” I tend to buy albums from genres I really like, and albums where I like half of the songs. I love Def Leppard, Winger, and Skid Row, but I haven’t listen to any of their new albums. Why? I want to listen to their older stuff first, and then work my way up, if that makes sense. I love this channel because Pete doesn’t only talk about older music, but newer music as well.
This was a great show. I’m 60 and my problem is not there isn’t enough new music but there is far too much. I stream music now and struggle to keep up with the volume.
Some valid points made:
1. Brendon – You need to own an album to really appreciate it. Totally agree. Streaming is just testing the material. Unfortunately money then becomes the problem
2. Jamie – always looking for a new favourite album. This is what keeps every music lover motivated and rewards those who find them. It’s a joy to hear a new album you love.
3. The reason people go back to the old albums is nostalgia. New music will never replace that. That material is timeless because you encountered it at a particular time in your life. It does not mean it’s better than later material. I love albums which many people dislike but I can trace them to a special time in my life when I was in a good place.